Jan 26, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: Undead Army
Profession: E/Me
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Macro bar for easier interface.
In many games, there are macro buttons that you can create for all of the slash commands in the game, that attach to the hot bar.
I would like to see a seperate skillbar that only allows macro commands to be placed in each slot. This way you could set up a button to invite a person as a friend or ignore someone without using the friend window, set up an /attack button so that you dont have to use a skill or try to double-click a moving target just to start attacking when using the tab key. I am sure there could be quite a bit more uses for this as well.
I think this could help reduce the clunkyness of the UI. As long as the macros do not support multiple tasks within 1 key, then it could not be used for cheating.
It would also be nice to see a few additions to the list of commands that are currently in the game. /stick or /follow could be usefull for following someone who knows where they are going on a long hike, an /attack command as stated above, and anything else that you can do with the UI but there is no command for would be nice.
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Jan 27, 2007, 01:57 AM // 01:57
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#2
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Garden City, Idaho
Guild: The Order of Relumination (TOoR)
Profession: R/
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Macro and Modding goes entirely against the philosophical underpinning of the game as stated by its developers on numerous occasions.
Having played WoW for 2+ years I would be lying to say I didn't like modding and macro-ing but it would have an extreme and negative impact on Guild Wars in very many ways. And, of course, I am no longer playing WoW.
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Jan 27, 2007, 02:13 AM // 02:13
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#3
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Oct 2006
Guild: LLJK
Profession: A/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuldebar Valiturus
Macro and Modding goes entirely against the philosophical underpinning of the game as stated by its developers on numerous occasions.
Having played WoW for 2+ years I would be lying to say I didn't like modding and macro-ing but it would have an extreme and negative impact on Guild Wars in very many ways. And, of course, I am no longer playing WoW.
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You dont really understand what hes trying to get at.
I used to play the MMO "Anarchy Online", which had a remarkably good scripting and macro support. What he means isnt say, haveing macros as in bots, but macros as in a button you could stick on the screen that when you press it, it auto /dances or something...was VERY useful in some circumstances.
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Jan 27, 2007, 02:23 AM // 02:23
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#4
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Garden City, Idaho
Guild: The Order of Relumination (TOoR)
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teger
You dont really understand what hes trying to get at.
I used to play the MMO "Anarchy Online", which had a remarkably good scripting and macro support. What he means isnt say, haveing macros as in bots, but macros as in a button you could stick on the screen that when you press it, it auto /dances or something...was VERY useful in some circumstances.
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I understand what he's saying. But it like saying he's talking about a compact car and not a SUV, they are both automobiles based entirely on the same principles of design, Such is the way with macro-ing.
In DAoC /stick was a great way to literally stick to an enemy target and stay in melee range. It was great but not necessarily skillful.
Maybe the OP should consider getting the Zboard™ Gaming Keyboard.
http://www.ideazon.com/global_images...GWF_Keyset.jpg
Last edited by Kuldebar Valiturus; Jan 27, 2007 at 02:26 AM // 02:26..
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Jan 27, 2007, 03:08 AM // 03:08
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#5
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Forge Runner
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Do you realize, that with /follow and /attack commands you can make a bot that clears an area for loot?
The bots already do it using AutoIt, which simply sends keystrokes to the client - all using existing GW functionality.
If you find yourself doing boring tasks (for example Barrage, Barrage, Barrage, Barrage, Barrage, Barrage), then the problem is with the build and the level of mobs you're facing, not "clunky" interfaces.
How does macroing help a mesmer who needs to keep 3 mobs in check, 1 caster, one healer and one melee, all while keeping an eye out for interrupts?
If a build can be macroed, it's best played by heroes. MM is a good example of that.
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Jan 27, 2007, 03:09 AM // 03:09
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#6
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Oct 2006
Guild: LLJK
Profession: A/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuldebar Valiturus
I understand what he's saying. But it like saying he's talking about a compact car and not a SUV, they are both automobiles based entirely on the same principles of design, Such is the way with macro-ing.
In DAoC /stick was a great way to literally stick to an enemy target and stay in melee range. It was great but not necessarily skillful.
Maybe the OP should consider getting the Zboard™ Gaming Keyboard.
http://www.ideazon.com/global_images...GWF_Keyset.jpg
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As fun as those are...they also cost money, and make you look pretty weird when people come to your house, lol.
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Jan 27, 2007, 04:57 AM // 04:57
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#7
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: Undead Army
Profession: E/Me
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Where the hell did you people come up with these conclusions? You already stick to a target and stay in range just by clicking the target...with that aspect this game does not require nearly the amount of skill that other RPG's based on PvP require. At least they required you to click the stick macro I think some of you misunderstood what I said.
I even said that "if you only allow one macro per slot" I am not talking about having multiple commands executed at the push of a button...Teger knows what I am talking about.
I already have a Zboard...it is really not that great. Now back on topic without any more crazy talk of bots and Zboards.
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Jan 27, 2007, 05:50 AM // 05:50
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#8
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Garden City, Idaho
Guild: The Order of Relumination (TOoR)
Profession: R/
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I changed my mind, I want my Guild Wars to look like this:
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Jan 28, 2007, 08:57 AM // 08:57
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#9
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: Limited Liability Company [LLC]
Profession: E/
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o_O Sooo many buttons!
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Jan 28, 2007, 10:13 AM // 10:13
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#10
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: The Etereal Guard
Profession: Me/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by divinechancellor
o_O Sooo many buttons!
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GW's clean interface is part of the reason I play. I don't want that many button on my screen..
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Jan 28, 2007, 10:42 AM // 10:42
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#11
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Dec 2006
Guild: Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]
Profession: Mo/
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I just wish they would change the Party Members window to look more like the one in observer mode. Except it wouldn't be transparent and you wouldn't be able to look at the opposite team's party window.
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Jan 28, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25
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#12
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Ascalonian Squire
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you might wanna try http://www.autohotkey.com/ . It is a very nice free app, which allows, among many others, to script remaps of keys. You can use it to map a key, or combination of keys, to execute the /*emote* command.
I personally use it to stop shift from opening the chat when i use shift+1~5. i use shift a lot for to prevent myself from moving and selecting targets, so you could imagine how often i open chat instead of using heals. also i made it to auto complete the pls, wtf, omg, gg so it writes: please, what the, oh my god, etc
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Jan 28, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14
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#13
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ivalice
Profession: D/P
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It has is uses but if this isnt handled right this could really break the game.
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Jan 28, 2007, 06:40 PM // 18:40
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#14
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Denmark
Guild: Rule Thirty Four [prOn]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
GW's clean interface is part of the reason I play. I don't want that many button on my screen..
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I want a choice to choose how many i want.
Choise is ftw.
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Jan 28, 2007, 06:54 PM // 18:54
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: D/W
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This a great idea. a "hotkey bar" would really bring me back to the good ol days of anarchy. I really havent seen anything negative on this page that makes sense either. have the ability to click a button to attack instead of pressing spacebar really dosnt make bots any easier. i would love to see this in the game.
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Jan 28, 2007, 11:46 PM // 23:46
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#16
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: Undead Army
Profession: E/Me
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Exactly...alot of ideas get a bunch of negativity that makes no sense whatsoever, and many good ideas get trashed.
Macro bar for slash commands (with hopefully some new ones added) with a choice of how many buttons are on the screen FTW.
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Jan 29, 2007, 12:04 AM // 00:04
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#17
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Stoke, England
Guild: The Godless [GOD]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hr1100
you might wanna try http://www.autohotkey.com/ . It is a very nice free app, which allows, among many others, to script remaps of keys. You can use it to map a key, or combination of keys, to execute the /*emote* command.
I personally use it to stop shift from opening the chat when i use shift+1~5. i use shift a lot for to prevent myself from moving and selecting targets, so you could imagine how often i open chat instead of using heals. also i made it to auto complete the pls, wtf, omg, gg so it writes: please, what the, oh my god, etc
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So you're openly bragging about using a third party scripting program to automate certain in-game funtions. Way to break the EULA on a public forum.
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Jan 29, 2007, 12:47 AM // 00:47
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#18
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: Animate Bone Horrors
Profession: A/
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/attack is already in the game ... select a target and hit your space bar.
why would you want a button on your screen that you hit with your mouse when you can just tap a key on your keyboard?
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